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Post by Sandra Bullock on Mar 4, 2011 13:28:51 GMT -5
*~*~Sandra's Questions & Comments~*~*~*Alright, I first want to start off by saying Congrats to the two of you. I'm not surprised to see one of you here as I thought that person would be here from the time that I left the game. Making it to the end is a great accomplishment and I want to commend you both on your efforts of getting here. With all that being said I of course have a lot of things I would like to address to the two of you since this vote is really difficult for me. Adam, when I left this game I knew you would be sitting in the Final 2. You had great control over the house and were able to get foolish people to do what you wanted. I think that you played an excellent strategic game. You got rid of the people you knew were too smart to follow you around and you kept the ones that were dumb to follow you around and do your bidding. So I think on the strategic front you should be very proud as I don't see how you could have played the strategy part of this game any differently. Johnny, when I left this game I wanted you to win over anyone else remaining. Mostly because I felt like you had a good balance of a strategy and a social game. You always treated me with respect and you were probably one if not the only person that I genuinely liked outside of the game. You seemed to have a working relationship with almost everyone in the house and so that made you less of a target than the guy sitting next to you right now. Now that I've discussed the positives of both your games I'm of course going to point out the negatives... Adam, you were and you are rude. Of everyone in this game I think you were the most outlandish and disrespectful of the entire cast. There is no justifying the type of behavior you exhibited while you were in the house. I never understand how being a jerk is a good thing for you in this game because you make people have their judgment clouded about your game since they dislike you so much. You played just like Russell Hantz in Survivor. You controlled a bunch of your friends before this game even started to do whatever you wanted. You chose the least strategic people to do what you wanted them to do. However, you made almost everyone on this Jury dislike you in some way shape or form. So you might have played a better game than Johnny strategically, but if you lose this game know its because you were one of the weakest socially. Johnny, I thought you were honest with me in the house, but its becoming more obvious to me that you just followed Adam to the end. Many times we had conversations where you acted as though you wanted Adam out or disagreed with what he was doing. However, its clear to everyone now that the two of you have been working together for a long time. So you were extremely deceptive for no reason. You also technically allowed Adam to get his minions further in the game than people who wanted to help you out. So in my mind it looks like Adam controlled most of everything strategically in this game and you just went along with it. Not sure if I respect someone who decided to follow someone instead of stand on their own two feet and make sure they were the one calling the shots. I honestly left the game thinking I was going to vote for Johnny. I came into this Tribal Council thinking I was going to vote for Adam. I'm extremely torn because Adam you make it very difficult when you answer these questions like the jerk we know you to be. Why you can't just speak eloquently and stop with the personal attacks is beyond me. I guess you haven't seen why Russell was never able to win the game of Survivor and you plan on following in his footsteps and losing in the end. So after saying all that here is my question for each of you.... Adam, why should I personally vote for you to win this game when I believe you played it the best strategically and be able to look past your negative and condescending attitude? Johnny, why should I personally vote for you to win this game when you may have acted like a friend to me, but clearly showed signs of deception? Show me where you actually stepped up to Adam and didn't do exactly what he wanted. Thank you I look forward to both your responses
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Post by Sean Hayes on Mar 4, 2011 14:06:05 GMT -5
teehee. Sandra, while i enjoy your comparison to Russell in Survivor, we're not at the tribal council hunny. this is Big Brother, not Survivor.
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Post by Sandra Bullock on Mar 5, 2011 20:12:35 GMT -5
Do you really have to try to gain more attention by posting in other peoples threads? *rolls eyes*
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Post by Sean Hayes on Mar 5, 2011 21:40:19 GMT -5
i really wasnt being rude, just a clarification, but if that's how you want to perceive it...this isnt my moment, it's Johnny and Adam's.
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Post by Johnny Knoxville on Mar 5, 2011 23:03:24 GMT -5
Before I get to answering the actual question that you asked, there are a few things I want to say. First, I want to point out that I try to separate game from friendships. It’s difficult to do because of the personal element to the game, but I genuinely try my best. I admit that there were some instances when I was trying to deceive you about my relationship with Adam, but I hope you can see that it was for strategic purposes and that I was not faking a friendship with you. I am sorry if I hurt you because that was not my intention in the slightest . You brought up the point that I was deceptive for no reason, and I disagree. Yes, I was deceptive, but it wasn’t arbitrary… my goal wasn’t just to make it to the end, I wanted to make it to the end WITH Adam. I think it was crucial for Adam and I to maintain the perception that we were not aligned throughout the game. This game had constantly shifting power, and I think it would have been very easy for us to be nominated beside each other if everyone knew how close we were. It may look like I was lying for no reason because things ended up going our way in this game, but I had to plan for the worst. Assuming that things will go your way is the way that a lot of people end up getting evicted, so I had to ensure that if someone I considered to be hostile won HOH that the other nominee was someone other than Adam. One other thing you mentioned was that you felt Adam was the one who was in control because more of his people made it to the end. I don’t understand why you feel that way. Out of the final 5, I would say that 2 people were in my court (Sean and Lindsay) while one was in Adam’s (Nicki). I am pretty sure I am correct with these assumptions, but if I am wrong then I encourage Sean, Lindsay or Nicki speak up. Finally, I also wanted to let you know that the points in time where I was voicing frustration with Adam to you were not fabricated. Adam and I went through some tough times in this game around the weeks leading up to your eviction. I vented a lot of my sincere frustrations to you, because I like you and I trusted you not to go running your mouth with the information. Anyways, on to your actual question. There were a few instances where I think I really went against what Adam wanted. The first was before we were aligned, when he was looking to evict Mike in the second week. At that point Mike and I were very tight, and Adam, Bradley and Kate were looking to backdoor him. I told them that I would evict Mike, but I was not actually planning on doing it. I then tried to prevent the backdoor by sending warning PMs to Mike and Sean about the backdoor plan, and they were able to turn things around the next day. The second instance was the week of your eviction. I’m sure you remember that Adam had helped Lindsay with the veto in order to secure your departure. What you did not witness was how that affected things between Adam and I. After you told me that he had helped Lindsay (who had been my target) I was LIVID. I ended up getting into a big fight with Adam because I know there was really no way that I could save you at that point, so I felt that he was putting me in a shitty position. I know that this isn’t an instance where I particularly defied Adam, but I didn’t just give him the nod of approval and accept his actions. I was not his minion. He pissed me off and I let him have it. The last time was when I saved Lindsay. Voting out Dianna was a decision I made almost entirely because I thought it would benefit my individual game (and it did). At the time, I thought it was a decision that Adam might be pissed at me for, but I went through with it regardless. This may not be the best example, because he has since acknowledged that he preferred Lindsay to make it through the week. But at the time, I was not aware of this fact and it was definitely a decision I made on my own. But to be honest, I will acknowledge that I didn't really move against Adam in this game. And I wouldn’t if I had the opportunity to go back and change things. He was my final 2 alliance, and I tried to do what I thought was best for the both of us. Personally, that's just how I think a final 2 alliance should operate - if there are differing opinions on how to approach a situation, that should be discussed behind closed doors but when it comes to actually making game moves it is important that there is a united front. If I felt like he was planning on screwing me over then I would have worked against him, but he didn't and he honored the final two agreement. I don’t see why it would make sense for me to jeopardize our alliance by sabotaging his game. And quite frankly, that's not the type of person I am. If it is what costs me your vote, then I can live with that. Good luck with your decision.
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Post by Adam Levine on Mar 6, 2011 1:35:32 GMT -5
Adam, why should I personally vote for you to win this game when I believe you played it the best strategically and be able to look past your negative and condescending attitude? I’ll provide my first entry, and then my re-vised, “eloquent” entry I believe you are down to the point that I have a strong strategic game and a weak social game due to my outlandish character to you. I should clarify that maybe I didn’t have any other outlandish fights with any other person. I knew you were someone I could take on without having much of a response from the house. Every time you spoke to others, they told me what you were saying to them. And I mean A LOT of people were copying and pasting AIM convos you were having with them to I guess further fuel my fire? Idk, but I guess it shows people were willing to work with me and throw you further under the bus. Onto your question, I understand your dilemma. I never heard of the survivor character you referenced, but I can see how he would be problematic. I personally got to the point where (and I told you this) that I wanted to cut off all communication with you, that I was going to be disrespectful to you, and that if you couldn’t handle it, it would be best for us not to talk until the game was over. That AIM conversation you posted in the living room thread, the entire time I said leave me alone. Some people need space, and as one of those people you gave me none to the point where I wanted to snap. Does this justify the way I acted towards you? No. But soon after it became like a game to me. If you were nom’d I only wished the other person luck in the veto, and whenever I logged on I smited you (mature, I know). I don’t believe in that whole smite bull shit, but I utilized any opportunity to confirm my disdain for you. But going after you gave me a couple of advantages: it gave me an instant nomination if I were HoH, and it could help weed out floaters in between (b/c I would nominate you with someone else, and if that someone else gets voted out, that would be fine b/c I would get rid of a floater and still have you as a target). Another thing I said, in the midst of our heated posted on the thread AIM conversation, was that I hope you weren’t taking my words to heart. And if you were, that I apologized. This is JUST A GAME, no need in feeling disrespected or hated for being the person you truly are. I don’t anything of you specifically, but I let you know my thoughts of Sandra if that makes sense. But I apologize (especially if you cried, some people get to that point), but regardless of how you vote, I think we can be mature about this situation and hash out our issues later in a much needed post-game chat (only if you want). Good luck. Eloquent version!: If I’m correct, your claim is that I’m strong strategically and weak socially. Thank you very much for that first off! But if I may, I respectfully disagree with your assumption that I was weak socially, for the following reasons: As someone who was readily available for conversations on AIM or on the board, I developed relationships with many of my counterparts. But I also had a keen eye for whose loyalty lied with who. I picked my battles, and I felt like my battle with you would consequence only our relationship, without insofar affecting any of the relationships I’ve made with others in the house at the time. And with it being pre-jury phase, my battle with you was one I was willing to take! But now I must face my inner demons, as Karma has truly shown actions matter even if you think they don’t. Onto your question, I want to first off apologize in leaving a bad taste in your mouth of who I am. I value my reputation, though my actions may not have shown that, and the way I acted to you was not ok. I would always look at any woman, and ask, “If someone treated my daughter that way, would I be ok with that?” There is no way I would be proud of how I acted to you, and if someone treated my daughter like the way I treated you, I would be arrested for an attempt at murder. But I am a man that will own up to all of the actions I have made in this Big Brother House. And it takes a man to say, “I’m sorry.” And Sandra, despite the justifications I made on why I may have been rude, I do want to apologize for the way I’ve treated you in this game. It was ugly, and I will not stand for it! By this apology, I am no way asking for your vote, for I am happy for whomever the winner of this season may be. But I will take responsibility for the disrespect that I’ve given you, and all I can ask for in return is for you to provide justice. If you think it is just to reward strategic gameplay or if you think it is just to not reward a cocky arrogant ass-hole (pardon my language!) is completely up to you! I would like to thank you specifically for your consideration, for many others that have been hated by an ass like me would not have given the time of day. Good luck with your decision!
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Post by Sandra Bullock on Mar 6, 2011 19:06:27 GMT -5
I'm satisfied! Thanks to you both!
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